Joined: Sun Nov 19, 2006 7:39 pm Posts: 5647 Location: Dog House, Nelson Stadium, Helena, MT
The main thing that is hindering job growth are Obama's policies. That's right, Obama is the main obstruction to economic recovery and jobs creation in this country. The other day he was seen reading a book called Post America, written by a muslim on the world after America has failed and becomes irrelevant.....WTF! Like it or not this guy is our President, but you really have to wonder if he has ulterior motives. Now he wants to spend even more money to stimulate the economy, let me guess; new union jobs training programs? More federal jobs projects? Double down with the socialist doctrine and watch it fail again. Isn't a definition of insanity "Doing the same things over and over and expecting a different outcome"? Why not roll back needless regulations and paperwork, put in a flat tax which taxes all citizens equally as a percentage of their income. Corporation are a legal entity, so treat them equally,,,a flat tax on their income. No tax breaks, offer an incentive to bring back manufacturing jobs. Maybe even impose an import tax on countries based on our own minimum wage law. If foreign workers earn less than our federal minimum wage, then put us on an even playing field. This would do three things. 1. Raise revenue to pay down the debt. 2. Encourage American job growth. 3. Make lawmakers take pause on raising the minimum wage laws, as it will also affect imports. Negative affect could include retaliatory taxes on exports and a drag on the world economy. Just keep government out of the way of the free market system and provide an even playing field. Give incentives to get back to work, quit extending unemployment benefits or at least lower them to the point where people will take available jobs. Start exporting.....illegal foreign workers, full scale roundups. We must also enforce the laws on the books. This includes going after those who hire illegal workers. Get them out and keep them out. No more anchor baby laws. To become a US citizen just by the act of being born here, at least one parent must already be a citizen. Impose a guest worker program so we can track folks and provide appropriate services. These services would be subsidized by the Parent country. Include this clause into all Free trade agreements. Then keep out of the way of the jugernaut economy you just allowed to grow.
Joined: Sun Nov 19, 2006 7:39 pm Posts: 5647 Location: Dog House, Nelson Stadium, Helena, MT
Thanks Tbone, that is very humbling to me. I'm just voicing what a lot of my friends are talking about. I've got way too many skeletons in the closet for a turn at any office. We as a nation need leadership and we haven't had any since Bush left. Even those who didn't like him gotta admit he could lead. I just saw a video of the former President and 14 wounded warriors from Iraq and Afghanistan doing a three day 60 trek through some pretty rough country down in the Big Bend Ranch park. 64 years old and with his men again. Many riders were amputees and a few said it was one of the most most memorable moments in their life. Wow, that will mist you up huh? http://video.foxnews.com/v/968464483001/former-president-bush-rides-with-wounded-warriors The compassion and respect shown by President Bush and his wife makes you wonder about our current CIC. Remember Fort Hood? Who was there at the bedsides of the wounded as soon as they heard about it? Hint, it wasn't Obama. He didn't show up until a week later and took a whirlwind tour of the base.
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The other day he was seen reading a book called Post America, written by a muslim on the world after America has failed and becomes irrelevant.....WTF!
A photo of Obama and his preferred reading material. Yes it is a real photo. It was taken in Bozeman, Montana when Obama landed there. Correction-The book is titled, "The Post American World"
I hear you- I'd have a tough time running for office too.... Here's an email I got last week. It's an excerpt from a book written by a secret service agent. It describes former and the current POTUS and what they were like behind the scenes.
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A NEW BOOK. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
In the President's Secret Service: Behind the Scenes with Agents in the Line of Fire and the Presidents They Protect. by Ronald Kessler 18 May 2011 ----------------------------- This book about the Secret Service reveals an awful lot about the Presidents and Vice-Presidents . . . very interesting recap thus far:
JFK and LBJ = Philanderers of the highest order, both kept a lot of women in White House for affairs. Both set up "early warning" systems for it and when their wives were nearby. Total immoral men. In addition, LBJ was as crude as the day is long.
Richard Nixon = Weird, moral man but very odd and weird. Paranoid etc.. Horrible relationship with his family, almost a recluse.
Spiro Agnew = a nice, decent man, everyone was surprised at his downfall.
Jerry Ford = A true gentlemen who treated them with respect and dignity.
Jimmy Carter = A complete phony. Would portray one picture of himself to the public and a very different one in private; i.e., he would be shown carrying his own luggage, suit cases were always empty, he kept empty one just for photo ops. Wanted the people to see him as pious and a non drinker, he and family drank alcohol a lot. Had disdain for the Secret Service, and was very irresponsible with the "football" nuclear codes. Didn't think it was a big deal and would keep military aides at a great distance. Would never acknowledge military or Secret service they were there to serve him.
Ronald Reagan = The real deal. Moral, Honest, respectful and dignified. Treated Secret Service and everyone else with respect and honor. Would always thank everyone all the time. He took the time to know everyone on a personal level. One story was early on in Presidency ... the President came out of his room with a side arm attached to his hip. The Agent in charge said "Why the pistol Mr. President?" Ronald Reagan replied, "In case you boys can't get the job done, I can help." It was common for him to carry a pistol. People do not know that when he met with Gorbachev, he had a pistol in his briefcase. Upon learning that Gary Hart was caught with Donna Rice during the election Ronald Reagan said, "Boys will be boys, but boys will not be President."
Nancy Reagan = Very nice but very protective of the President . . .. the Secret Service was always caught in the middle. Nancy would try to control what the President ate all the time (healthy) and he would say to the Agents "Come on you gotta help me out." The Reagans rarely drank alcohol. Secret Service said they could count on one hand the times the Reagans were served alcohol other than, wine during dinner. They made the comment for all the fake bluster of the Carters. It was the Reagans who lived life as genuinely moral people.
George and Barbara Bush = Extremely kind and considerate. Always respectful. Took great care in making sure the agents comforts were taken care of.. They would bring them meals etc. One time Barbara Bush brought warm clothes to agents standing outside Kennebunkport. One agent who was given a warm hat tried to nicely say no thanks when he was obviously freezing and President Bush said "Son, don't argue with the first lady, put the hat on."
Bill Clinton = Presidency was one giant party. Not trustworthy, he was nice because he wanted everyone to like him but life is just one big game and party to him.
Hillary Clinton = Another phony. Her personality would change the instant cameras were near. She hated with open disdain the military and Secret Service. Again another one who felt people are there to serve her. She was always trying to keep tabs on Bill Clinton.
Al Gore = An egotistical a** who was once overheard by his Secret Service detail when he told his son he needed to do better in school or he "would end up like these guys" and pointed to the Secret Service agents.
G. W. Bush = They loved him and Laura Bush. They said no one is a nicer person than Laura Bush who never has a harsh word to say about anyone. The Bush's went out of their way to take care of the Secret Service and made sure they were well cared for with meals and other comforts. GW was the most prompt of the Presidents. He ran like a well oiled machine. He was also the most in shape who had a very strict work out regimen. The Bush's made sure their entire administration understood to respect and be considerate of the Secret Service.
Karl Rove was the one who was the most caring of the Secret Service in the administration.
Barack Obama - Clintons all over again. Hates the military and looks down on the Secret Service.
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My old college roommate and best friend was an Army Ranger in Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, and Afghanistan on several different tours. Apparently he was an outstanding soldier and officer, recieving the Bronze Star and the Purple Heart.
He met President Obama once while recovering from injuries due to a gernade blast in Afghanistan. He said there was nothing warm at all with the man. He shook his hand while some people watched and then walked on down the line. Not much appreciation for an officer wounded in the line of duty and worthy to recieve some of the finest awards this country can bestow.
In fact, when the President was scheduled to visit, my friend told the hospital administration he would rather not meet the man, but they insisted the President "wanted to greet and thank the soldiers." What a crock of sh!t. If I met the guy I would probably be arrested for spitting on the son of a b!tch.
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So when when Churchill was reading Hitler's writings, and Regan reading about the ways of communism... That told you what? My goodness, so stupid, but with all of the answers... Obama's fault, just as it was Bush's fault. You are the same type of guy that had an answer to every one of GW's problems...
The folks who are getting the free stuff, don't like the folks who are paying for the free stuff - because the folks who are paying for the free stuff can no longer afford to pay for both the free stuff and their own stuff.
And, the folks who are paying for the free stuff want the free stuff to stop. But the the folks who are getting the free stuff want even more free stuff on top of the free stuff they are already getting!
Now... The people who are forcing the people who pay for the free stuff have told the people who are RECEIVING the free stuff that the people who are PAYING for the free stuff Are being selfish, prejudiced, and racist.
So... the people who are GETTING the free stuff have been convinced they need to hate the people who are paying for the free stuff by the people who are forcing some people to pay for their free stuff And giving them the free stuff in the first place.
We have let the free-stuff-giving go on for so long that there are now more people getting free stuff than paying for the free stuff.
Now understand this. All great democracies have committed financial suicide somewhere between 200 and 250 years after being founded. The reason? The voters figured out they could vote themselves money from the treasury by electing people who promised to give them money from the treasury in exchange for electing them.
The United States officially became a Republic in 1776, 231 years ago. The number of people now getting free stuff outnumbers the people paying for the free stuff. We have one chance to change that in 2012. Failure to change that spells the end of the United States as we know it.
No big empire likes the beginning of the end, but they all end at some point. Every couple hundred years, the status quo gets shaken up. I don't think anything will ever change that. And any minor adjustments in the short term will not help at all.
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The early Roman Empire was established circa 500 BC.The Roman Empire fell in 476 AD,though the Holy Roman Empire endured until 1400 AD.Much longer than a few hundred years.There is no internal mechanism that forces the demise of an empire/civilization.It is by the action of lack thereof of its citizenry that an empire's longevity is defined...
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Well, there was no Roman Empire in 500 BC, but whatever. The status quo still gets shaken up from time to time, and there's nothing anybody can do about it except adjust.
Well, there was no Roman Empire in 500 BC, but whatever. The status quo still gets shaken up from time to time, and there's nothing anybody can do about it except adjust.
And I can tell you probably are union loving socialist who tolerates all and believes in evolution...
Uh, you've lost me here. I have no idea what you are yapping about. You are called Redordead, and calling me a socialist cuz I said change happens. Put down the crack pipe bro.
Joined: Sun Nov 19, 2006 7:39 pm Posts: 5647 Location: Dog House, Nelson Stadium, Helena, MT
Hey K9, I have to agree that a civilization doesn't have to destroy itself in 200 years. With the proper stewardship a nation could conceivably go on forever. Human nature, envy to be more specific, seems to bring down most.
I never mentioned civilization destroying itself. If by envy, you mean a static society being jealous of a more prosperous and dynamic society, I agree.
Joined: Sun Nov 19, 2006 7:39 pm Posts: 5647 Location: Dog House, Nelson Stadium, Helena, MT
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So when when Churchill was reading Hitler's writings, and Regan reading about the ways of communism... That told you what? My goodness, so stupid, but with all of the answers... Obama's fault, just as it was Bush's fault. You are the same type of guy that had an answer to every one of GW's problems...
I just couldn't go through life with my eyes shut, I don't know how you do it. What if someone would have done something when they saw Hitler reading "Euthinasia for the Masses" or when Timothy McVeigh was seen reading "The Anarchist's Cookbook". Forewarned is forearmed. I just hope we wake before it's too late.
static like sitting in your parent's basement waiting for your welfare check? Hmmmm?
I'm not sure what's going on with you, but you seem to go to very strange topics, to something totally unrelated to what was said. What gives? I'm not sure why you are so intent on arguing against a point that I'm not even trying to make.
K'9, one of your earlier posts implied that The United States is an empire and it's 200 year reign as an empire is about to end. You are basing that "200 year" thing on some bogus history. I've read that crap myself. It's bunk.
First and foremost, The US is not an "empire". The last true empire to fall was the British Empire. I guess you could throw the Soviet Union in there if you like, but, the Soviets were an occupation army. Nothing more. They didn't "tend" to the Eastern Bloc like a true empire. Reagan brought them down. Just thought I'd throw that in there.
The Brits could be considered an empire after the defeat of the Spanish Armada, and, the acquisition of colonies/states around the globe. That empire didn't dissolve until after WWII. That would be several centuries. As the saying used to go, "The sun never sets on the British Empire". The same can be said for Spain, in a manner of speaking. Until The US kicked their arse in The Spanish-American War, they too had a "global empire". Along w/the French, Dutch, Germans, etc. All lasting more than 200 years. Some, like Britian, several centuries.
Seriously though, what was this thread title? Oh, yeah, jobs. Well, if Jomamma gets re-elected, we can all work for the government, there won't be any private sector left....
Uh, you've lost me here. I have no idea what you are yapping about. You are called Redordead, and calling me a socialist cuz I said change happens. Put down the crack pipe bro.
First of all, I would never claim to be your bro. I am not a liberal that wants the government to dole out the cash while is sit on my fat a$$ and let every other tax payer give me a living. The redordead thing is tribute to my college team, not my political affiliation (that is more in tune with your Obama ways of thinkin, not mine). And the crack pipe is for your branch of the political tree (hippies and what not).
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K'9, Seriously though, what was this thread title? Oh, yeah, jobs. Well, if Jomamma gets re-elected, we can all work for the government, there won't be any private sector left....
And we will definately collapse as a nation under the weight of the taxes or China will repo us for defaulting on our loans.
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